From news.cc.ukans.edu!falcon.cc.ukans.edu!ranma Fri Oct 22 23:40:44 1999 Path: news.cc.ukans.edu!falcon.cc.ukans.edu!ranma From: ranma@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Ranma Al'Thor) Newsgroups: alt.games.whitewolf Subject: Re: Vote Iteration X in 2000! Date: 23 Oct 1999 04:26:25 GMT Organization: University of Kansas Computing Services Lines: 96 Message-ID: <7urddh$ur7$1@news.cc.ukans.edu> References: <7um04e$l8h$1@news.cc.ukans.edu> <7uqqkt$vrm$1@hiram.io.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.cc.ukans.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.cc.ukans.edu alt.games.whitewolf:152272 Austin Loomis (zedd@fnord.io.com) wrote: : From: 0110000000 (V. Grissom) : To: 0000001101 (J. Watt) : Re: Warwick chat : : The transcript of your conversation with Dr. Stephen Warwick happened : to cross my desk on its way to Central, and I thought I'd offer a few : comments on things I noticed. Even though I gather Warwick talked to : the RDs first, I think we can combat the influence of their propaganda. : Please pass these addenda along to him. : : 1) You didn't mention that we are, in fact, the oldest paradigm for : "reality-alteration" still active on the planet. I can't really say : I blame you, though. Given how far we've come since the first Artificers : and their crude experiments with stone tools, back when most of (what : passed for) the human race was still worrying about the ramifications : of opposable thumbs, it's hard for the Masses to see the connections : between the two types of Procedure. : Yes. Mostly it didn't come up as an issue; we live in the modern age, what people were doing thousands of years ago lacks much relevance, except for the historians. Although I suppose he is one. : 2) Did you catch yourself, or did your DEI have to shut you up about : the Bangladesh thing? Either way, while I'm given to understand that : he's making these files chiefly for his own use, it's probably best that : you didn't talk about that. If the world makes it through the Crisis, : then once we win this war, we can declassify those files along with the : rest, but right now, if the Masses found out how close they came to being : some RD's morning cup of coffee, we'd have panic in the steets. : I was careful not to talk about it. : 3) He didn't ask how we'd cure his lung cancer. Probably afraid we'd : make him take the Next Step and upgrade to a cyborg body. But you and I believe he was waiting to ask the Progenitor after the NWO representative told him to do so. : side effects outside a controlled environment, so I'd rather pass him : on to Johnny Dippel. (Maybe we can get Johann positioned to speak for : his Convention? We'd better hurry -- I understand the Progenitors are : the next up on Warwick's calendar.) : Unfortunately, I believe he's already conversed with them, and only a computer glitch has prevented him posting his response. It's supposed to be up some time tomorrow. I tried to take a sneak peak at his personal computer, but the system I was using crashed. It was rather embarrassing. : 4) This probably should have come up first, since it was the first thing : you had to get out of the way in your own defense, but when, exactly, : did cyborgs become figures of fear in the media? I know I shouldn't Terminator. Even with the effort to show a good one in the second one we financed, I think the damage was done. : take pride in Caidin's book *or* the TV show, but it still gives me a : warm glow in what's left of my heart to think of a time when a man with : both legs, an arm and an eye cyborged could be the good guy; if Hollywood : did a "hip" 90s version of my fictive alter ego, they'd turn him into : something like the Terminator or a Borg (or maybe a "boomer," which I : thought was a nuke boat). I suspect the blame lies with the Virtual Yep. : Adepts; the whole "cyberpunk" literary movement, which they backed as : a way of luring people into their Digital Web, convinced the Masses that : anyone who accepts advanced prosthetics has to give up a portion of his : "soul" in the process. And too many of our younger Kamrads are falling : into that trap, thinking they're now "above" human traits like common : courtesy. With friends like them, who needs RDs? : Quite. Young people this century... : -- 10110111000110110000000 : : [OOC: Before anyone intervenes, I know what a buuma actually is, but : Virgil doesn't. The conceit of his survival as a HIT Mark was inspired : by a Cult of the Dead Cow piece. Johann Dippel von Frankenstein is real; : his pioneering biological experiments helped inspire Dr. Waldman of the : Electrodyne Engineers, though Mary Shelley exchanged the names of mentor : and student.] [Mind if I add this to the web site?] -- John Walter Biles : MA-History, ABD, Ph.D Candidate at U. Kansas ranma@falcon.cc.ukans.edu rhea@tass.org http://www.tass.org/~rhea/falcon.html rhea@maison-otaku.net http://www.maison-otaku.net/~rhea/ "Anybody touches my radishes and it's war!" --KODT #1